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2008-02-20 [someelf]: xD Kinyo protected me like all the time, and Scott did too :3
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: kinyo rocked..lol
2008-02-20 [someelf]: Nightwolf does too :3 *giggles* Both are/were my uncles ^__^
And they were really protective, about everyone :P
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: lol.. man i really miss the chat..but the problem is that we've all moved on, and some of us cant re adjust our schedules to be there when everyone else is..well atleast thats how ive turned out
2008-02-20 [someelf]: ^^; Sounds like me, kinda =]
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: yeah
2008-02-20 [someelf]: It's annoying as hell.
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: i know, i miss it
2008-02-20 [someelf]: *Hugs* Thank god there's a thing called MSN, Yahoo, IM and a ordinarily telephone and letters<3
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: yeah
2008-02-20 [someelf]: *Grins and giggles*
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: i love elftown though..lol
2008-02-20 [someelf]: It's <3
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: yeah..
2008-02-20 [Infested_Zling]: Me too, I could never leave my friends that are here. You guys are like part of family to me
2008-02-20 [Darth Jacein]: i totally understand, i was devistated when i lost my internet
2008-02-22 [Titus (Cammy)]: Ya'll ARE my family. So ha. x.x Though Cougar has "Don't talk to me unless you are storm or someone else" and I'm all afraid to message her u.u
2008-02-22 [Darth Jacein]: lol
2008-02-23 [Infested_Zling]: I can talk to her for you
2008-02-23 [Darth Jacein]: lol what is this grade school?
2008-02-23 [Gone123456789]: -opens a note and reads out loud- Do you like me? check this box for yes and this box for no. -notices no box is significantly smaller than then the yes box..... - Lol.
2008-02-23 [Zantia]: Who's that from? lol
2008-02-23 [Darth Jacein]: lol
2008-02-23 [Tynuka-Rhytishy]: -whistles-
2008-02-23 [Darth Jacein]: lol
2008-02-24 [Gone123456789]: (([Zantia] that was a joke in accordance with [Darth Jacein]'s joke... -.- ))
2008-02-24 [Tynuka-Rhytishy]: Lol, I'm sure she knows. Assio. =P
2008-02-25 [Zantia]: I dind't know XD But I didn't read up till later and I couldn't be arsed to change it lol.
Mree >.>
2008-02-25 [Gone123456789]: o.0 Who is [Tynuka-Rhytishy]? ((And I wasn't being mean... sorry if it came off that way <3 <3 ))
2008-02-26 [Infested_Zling]: its AngelDragon
2008-02-26 [Zantia]: More people need to put up their faces on the "faces behind the chars" wiki >.>
2008-02-27 [Infested_Zling]: Ill try, but if i do get a pic up it might not be verry good lol
2008-02-27 [Darth Jacein]: lol i got the only pic of me i have up
2008-03-01 [Vincent Le~Ciel]: =/
2008-03-01 [Tynuka-Rhytishy]: -goes to put pic up- I'm Angeldragon or Kiki~Shishinim
2008-03-01 [Darth Jacein]: i hate that pic..makes me look to young
2008-03-03 [Vincent Le~Ciel]: Boohoo.
2008-03-03 [someelf]: Ive a photo of you Ryan xD *grins evil* x3
2008-03-03 [Zantia]: Put it up. I donno why everyone is so shy. When you meet a new person on the street they can see the whole of you so I dn't get what the big deal about a picture is.
2008-03-03 [someelf]: Me neither xD But yeah, some people like to be mysterious I suppose :o
2008-03-03 [Zantia]: Psht! They're just not confident enough! RAWR!
2008-03-03 [someelf]: But I ain't confident either! But I've got my photo up xD!
2008-03-03 [Kylara.]: i hate to be the one to say this, but everyone should just give up. as much as we'd all like to bring back elftown chat, we can't. i also know that some of you that want it back, don't even know what it used to be like. i know i hardly do. i joined the chat just as the rping was on it's way to extinction. i watched as everyone ceased to join in real rp's and chose instead to divulge in drama. i'm not innocent of this, nor would i pretend to be. apparently, though, i'm the only one that's going to bring reality crashing down on all of you. there was a reason why the chat died out, and we should leave it that way.
2008-03-04 [Darth Jacein]: BLASPHEME!
2008-03-04 [Infested_Zling]: I remeber what it used to be like. I remember and i miss it. but i dont like to give up that easily. there might not be a chance in hell that we can bring it back but then again there might be a chance but we will never know unless we try.
2008-03-04 [Darth Jacein]: i second that motion
2008-03-04 [someelf]: Both are true. Meeeeeeh *stares and bops all* If we would work together, building it up, frequently going online, thing's might actually work, but we do have to work together.. Which is errr. Not a real big deal, but big enough :p
Whadda ya say? :3
2008-03-04 [Darth Jacein]: im in just tell me what i need to do!
2008-03-04 [someelf]: So two are in, who wants to join in furthermore? :3
2008-03-04 [Infested_Zling]: ME!
2008-03-04 [someelf]: Three people already =]
2008-03-05 [Riv]: Ashley, you're a moron. You don't even know why it died.
This is completely possible if you can find a decent GM. Without that I can promise this will fail.
2008-03-05 [Titus (Cammy)]: Where do we want the chatroom? Or are we supposed to invade the old one again? Hi Mark!! -glompies- Long time no see!! -snuggles you to death-
2008-03-05 [Kylara.]: Grow up, Mark... name calling is so outdated. Who would you propose to be GM, then? I'm in this thing if rping is actually going to happen.
2008-03-05 [Darth Jacein]: same here
2008-03-05 [someelf]: *Hugs Kyla* Hiiii ^.^ *glomps* <3
Anyway if WE make something out of it, then there's a high possibility that it's going to work =]
But which room? The old chatroom sounds fine to me, why not? Why make up a new one, when the old one is still there? :3
2008-03-05 [Darth Jacein]: makes sense
2008-03-05 [someelf]: I hate it when good buildings get scrapped off the earth when people are dieing of hunger while the money for building a new building that looks about the fucking same is just unhumanish. >.> *stare* But that's just me :3 *giggles*
2008-03-05 [Kylara.]: *Hugs back* Long time no talk, ne? <3
The old chatroom sounds fine to me, too. That makes it less confusing to anyone who decides they want to join up again. We don't have to go around messaging everyone telling them the new name, we just tell them to get their asses back in the chat. :D
2008-03-05 [someelf]: Yush! That's the point I tried to make =D Thankii ^^ *clings and luffs*<3<3
2008-03-05 [Kylara.]: Hehe. Well it's a good point if it makes sense to me. *drags in a corner and sexes* >.> <.<
2008-03-05 [Darth Jacein]: *video tapes* wow...nice move there..
2008-03-06 [Zel Holt]: O.o'? Ok? This is strange.
2008-03-06 [Darth Jacein]: lol
2008-03-06 [someelf]: xD *Pets Zel* You forgot how pervy we all were didn't you? :3
2008-03-06 [Darth Jacein]: lol...im suprised..vinn
2008-03-06 [someelf]: But Vinneh is pervveeeeh *humps Vinneh* x3 *giggles and looks innocent* =] But I quite matured up as well. And turned out to be major perv XD *grins widely* Which is quite shocking for some people around me in real life. Because I'm usually really silent but when I say something it's really pervy, that or very random and laughable :p
2008-03-06 [Infested_Zling]: not as pervy as me though ^_~
2008-03-06 [Zantia]: >_____>..............
2008-03-06 [Zel Holt]: *got petted on the head while he was sitting* Ahh, I don't think I forgot it's just I didn't know what else to say other then the fact that one of the wikis I actualy made is up, running, and has lots of members! *is happy*
2008-03-06 [someelf]: Hihi ^_^ *giggles smiling* :)
2008-03-06 [Zel Holt]: ^_^ *looks cute chibish with one fang sticking out of his mouth*
2008-03-06 [someelf]: !!! KAWAII! *glomps and hugs tightly*<3
2008-03-06 [Zel Holt]: ACK! *got glomped and huggled*
2008-03-06 [someelf]: xD `*snuggles and clings*<3 :D:D:D
2008-03-06 [Zel Holt]: *is now getting snuggled and clinged too* Eheh... ^_^' *isn't use to it*
2008-03-07 [someelf]: *Releases and hops away happily* Wheee :3
2008-03-07 [Riv]: You tell me to grow up then ask for my opinion?
Here it is. From what I see on this page none of you could possibly GM. You need someone from before your time. Jamie is probably the closest thing you have.
She GM'd some minor games. Never really took a liking to it though. Hopefully she can get you started and hopefully one of you will be able to step up when she gets sick of trying to GM the lot of you.
You are a moron. That's not name calling. That's stating a fact. You don't feign maturity very well.
2008-03-07 [someelf]: *Pokepoke* What's GM anyway? O.o Game Master or something *Blank mind today* >.>
2008-03-07 [Darth Jacein]: yes..yes hats it...*gives the tone he uses when he speaks to the slow kids at school* very good
2008-03-07 [someelf]: -_-! I had a bad day alright >.> And remember that English isn't my Birth Language. *stares and pokes in sides* >.<!
2008-03-07 [Darth Jacein]: lol sorry
2008-03-07 [Riv]: In this context it's Game Master.
In another context it would be God Modder.
2008-03-08 [Zel Holt]: Ahh like the red opp on the old chat sort of. ^_^'
2008-03-08 [Darth Jacein]: lol yeah
2008-03-08 [Zel Holt]: Ok. ^_^
2008-03-08 [Kylara.]: Yes, I did (oh well.)
Jamie and I already talked about this last night, and she said she would, if i remember right. So I think we should start getting this thing going, yeah?
2008-03-09 [Infested_Zling]: i agree
2008-03-09 [Ryuk Kannagi]: the old chat is missed ehy... Leon DarkAngel just so you all know :D I wouldn't really start up the old chat again, seems like a bad idea from the looks of this forum doesn't seem like some could get along in here let alone the chat.
2008-03-09 [Darth Jacein]: lol they never did... some always had a bone to pick with others
2008-03-09 [Zantia]: >.>
Mew
Tbh, maybe we should just keep it a forum thing considering everyone is a lot busier these days?
Chat could be for when you want to rp faster? But the main stuff could go on , on a different wiki. Here we can all chat and catch up. How does that sound?
2008-03-09 [Darth Jacein]: sounds great!, i started a rping wiki for some friends, mainly the crew that i rped with..its working out ok, if we started a new rp to replace the chat, i think it would be awesome
2008-03-17 [Snap Dragon]: i agree with riv jamie is the closest thing we got to a gm
2008-03-24 [The Keeper Of The Night]: Muwahahhaha..
2008-03-24 [Gone123456789]: I thought a GM was a General Manager. o.0 IRL anyhow, idk if ya'll are talkin irp but still... never heard of a Game Master or God Modder... being GM anyhow.
2008-03-24 [Gone123456789]: Responding to [Ryuk Kannagi]: You know humans crave drama, even if someone says they hate drama. There is not one person on Earth that can just simply advert their eyes if something disaterous is happening in front of them. Everyone wants to watch drama and eventually everyone becomes involved in drama. That's what makes things interesting, especially chats like this. You dont think a chat could last if it was simply all nicey nice all around, do you? People have a lot more to say when someone says something they dont agree with then if everyone just agreed. If everyone agreed there would be no reason to talk... therefore killing the chat. Drama is interesting...
2008-03-24 [Infested_Zling]: *nods*
2008-03-24 [Zel Holt]: *sits and listens*
2008-03-24 [Darth Jacein]: yeah, except when drama mean vincent and i think fogg, nd zantia ganging up on a newb, just because he accidentaly insulted vincent
2008-03-24 [Gone123456789]: So how is everyone?
2008-03-24 [Zel Holt]: *blinks* I'm good, You? ^_^
2008-03-24 [Darth Jacein]: good..btw the newb was meh
2008-03-24 [Gone123456789]: Lol, see it was interesting though, right [Darth Jacein]?! Lol. Im awesome, being a mom is the greatest thing ever... even better than double chocolate reeses pieces cookies.......
2008-03-24 [Zel Holt]: Lol, Ok, congrats. ^_^ Mines was rather well. Your's?
2008-03-24 [Darth Jacein]: mine was..boring
2008-03-24 [Gone123456789]: Mine was pretty relaxing. We ate and watched a movie and slept then repeated. lol. Aiden got a easter basket filled with cars and candy from his pap-pap. it was really cute.
2008-03-24 [Infested_Zling]: i did homework v-v
2008-03-25 [Zel Holt]: Cool I plaied DDR with Dassy. ^_^'
2008-03-25 [Infested_Zling]: lucky *mumbles*
2008-03-25 [Zel Holt]: Sorry? ^_^'
2008-03-26 [Zantia]: I went to families and went way over the top with easter games and egg hunts XD
I have anough chocolate to last me a month.
And we were only souting at the idiot newbs. The ones that could get through us were the ones that usually stayed in the chat and made friends. Don't you see? Look where you are now? Lol
So it wasn't that bad what we did, and it provided entertainment for when it was dead in there lol.
2008-03-26 [Tynuka-Rhytishy]: I skated all Easter. =/ Well, watched skating. I wish I could skateboard. ._. My Michael's slowly getting me into it more. =D Then we went to my friend Jamie's and watched "owned" videos on YouTube. =D
2008-03-26 [Darth Jacein]: i suppose thats true zantia..but still..hey wasnt there a while where i was like some blue winged gecko in the chat? i believe you was my human
2008-03-26 [Gone123456789]: Old et chat was great... when people weren't threatening suicide for all the various reasons (e.g. 'my cat died, i can't go on!') it really was fantastic fun. oh all the inside jokes that were made in that chat.... (inferna, jami- 123 456 789) Good times. Good times. There are still mysteries like was briar really a girl? and who exactly was duckith anyhow? the chat was a great escape. i cant say it was an escape from reality bc for a lot of people, even for just a moment, it was their reality. but it was a great escape.
2008-03-26 [Darth Jacein]: biggest mystery for me was how didi it die? i came on in 05, and somthings hapened, and i lost meh internet, and i came back in 06 and it was nothing but newbs..not like i was a newb i mean like annoying newbs..bad kind..anyways, and then i came back two months later and it was gone...so what happend to make it die between 05 and 06?
2008-03-26 [Gone123456789]: Well, I'm thinking everyone just left. I mean, after the whole Duckith thing stuff pretty much went downhill. There was a lot of people getting together and breaking up so there's another factor, people didn't want to talk to their ex's. Plus we pretty much rp'd about almost everything. Idk the whole story, I just kinda stopped coming on bc I moved in with a guy and he didn't like me on there so much, plus I think he was worried that I would start "dating" someone else on there. It was a crazy cycle. But basically I think everyone just gradually grew up or got sick of all the drama. Idk, Jamie (drk) would be the one to ask on that one, she's been around the longest.
2008-03-26 [Darth Jacein]: duckith?
2008-03-27 [Ryuk Kannagi]: Bri was a girl just to answer that question Accio. Riv was actually on longer then Jamie, same with me I was there before hand, around same time as Riv.
2008-03-27 [Darth Jacein]: whos duckith?
2008-03-27 [Zel Holt]: I'd like to know that aswell please? ^_^'
2008-03-31 [Gone123456789]: Duckith basically swept up the entire et chat. I mean, girls AND guys fell for "him." He was like the most popular kid in school... except it was a chatroom..., everyone wanted to be by him and be his friend and date him and etc etc... (everyone minus riv -.-) BUT it turned out Duckith was a fraud. I don't know the whole story, but I guess someone was pretending to be duckith, like a reg or something. It was pretty sad in the end. It was a pretty crappy joke and a lot of people ending up with their feelings hurt, especially the ones who thought they were so madly in love with "him."
2008-03-31 [Darth Jacein]: damn...that sucks..so the was the beauty that killed the beast huh..wow
2008-04-03 [DarkRedKrueger]: Duckith was Jess.
2008-04-03 [Gone123456789]: For real?! That so solves the mystery! Omg... lol. I kinda had an idea but never really thought it was the truth. But omg...........
2008-04-03 [someelf]: I guess with IP adresses? Or just simply figuring things out ^_^
2008-04-04 [Zantia]: I always kept track of people through IP addresses.
Was easier. Specially when someone was being a dick with the user names.
2008-04-04 [Darth Jacein]: too true
2008-04-06 [someelf]: :] Thought so ^.^
2008-04-06 [Darth Jacein]: ah verry smart
2008-04-07 [Titus (Cammy)]: Stalker. >.> -runs and hides being paranoid-
2008-04-07 [Zel Holt]: Uhh question, One time das was trying to get onto chat through spin and it said someone was already on with that name. (Dasner) I was wondering if there was someone with the name dasner not acting the way dassy would?
2008-04-07 [Darth Jacein]: hmmcreepy...i registered my name back win there was some war going on
2008-04-07 [Gone123456789]: Yeah, I registered mine too awhile ago. Idk if its still up bc I havent been on in a bit. That was some crap though. People were taking peoples nicks and using them for a bit. Crazy crackers. Question, my IP address was always diff... could it be bc my internet wasn't always from the same server? Or am I just a crackhead?
2008-04-08 [Darth Jacein]: thats why
2008-04-08 [Ryuk Kannagi]: If you run off of cable you have a static ip which never stays the same
2008-04-10 [Gone123456789]: good deal. tyty
2008-04-10 [Snap Dragon]: ya know when i elftown chat is back up we really dont need an op and if you guys really think we do there are wasy someone can make a bot and it can only op certian ppl.i can work on something if you like.
2008-04-10 [Darth Jacein]: sounds interesting..
2008-04-10 [Zel Holt]: Yeah! ^_^
2008-04-10 [Ryuk Kannagi]: bots are still controlled by a person, just by the programs that person writes/uses so it's still the same thing really, plus i doubt any spin chat mod would allow a bot since they're mostly used for spamming in chats and what not. The only way to get a OP is to go through spin chat or something similar.
2008-04-11 [Darth Jacein]: hmm..or we could do like the old days..who ever gets there first is op...vincent did that mostly
2008-04-11 [Ryuk Kannagi]: probably just better to use the actual old elftown chat since no one goes in it, and not have an op, a lot of trouble was people misused being red or blue op.
2008-04-11 [Darth Jacein]: oh yeah, i did that once or twive..i think i didi it to dark erk..and fogg
2008-04-11 [Snap Dragon]: no not all of em dark edge goes on oblivion and they have a bot and they have some ppl that get auto oped but the bot by the person who programs it and i can make on too who ever has the most time to get on and be on and everything can get to be admins its no trouble at all i have a comp and its always on i can do it we can at least try it go to spin and go to Oblivion they have a great system just check it out
2008-04-11 [Darth Jacein]: sounds cool
2008-04-11 [DarkRedKrueger]: Heather we all have decided that we are returning to the Old elftown chat. That means there are no ops and it is better that way. The reason why it is better that way because the room use to be run by a bot and there was a huge war, also feelings were hurt. The chat is better off without no body in control because no one can be fully trusted to have that much power over everyone. Someone sooner or later is going to abuse that power and use it for fun or emotions.
2008-04-12 [Darth Jacein]: true..*cough* vinneh*cough*.
2008-04-12 [Ryuk Kannagi]: O.o ok from that spelling it's hard to tell what was said but, if you mean to transfer control of the bot to whoever has the most time, thats not possible unless the person has the programs to run it, which would kinda be pointless since they could just make a bot themselves. Wise words: Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
2008-04-12 [Darth Jacein]: i know, hence the "vinneh"..as in vincent
2008-04-13 [~Cerys~]: wow....long time since i was last here...
2008-04-14 [Darth Jacein]: OMG CERYS!!!!!!!!!
2008-04-14 [Snap Dragon]: then what are you going to do about flooders and assholes that some in and ruin chat for everyone
2008-04-14 [Darth Jacein]: ignore buttons re gods gift to role players
2008-04-14 [Snap Dragon]: *gives up on the argument and walkes out* you poeple havent changed at all yalls point of view is still messed up.im outta here im not comeing back to the old chat where all the drama and imature b.s is you all STILL think you know everything
2008-04-14 [Darth Jacein]: what? no, i was just saying that if we ignored the assholes in the chat, we wouldnt have as many problems..
2008-04-14 [Snap Dragon]: you know some poeple will not ignore
2008-04-14 [Darth Jacein]: i know, and that could be a problem, but i dont see why they wouldnt..but i didnt mean to offend you or anyone else
2008-04-14 [Snap Dragon]: not you the other ppl here think they know everything
2008-04-14 [Darth Jacein]: some of us may be over eager, but its because we want this to happen, this was some of the best rp days we had
2008-04-14 [Titus (Cammy)]: Um, I forget.. Why not have it here? Like just make wikis for all the different rp's and stuff? Too slow or something like that?
2008-04-14 [Snap Dragon]: yeah too slow
2008-04-14 [DarkRedKrueger]: I'm going with that comment was towards Ryuk and I. Since we are the only ones who disagreed with her and told her how it is. See Heather I was there for that huge power war and was also there when we lost that very same power.
2008-04-15 [Darth Jacein]: heavy
2008-04-15 [Snap Dragon]: *sighs* ive given up on my perposal
2008-04-15 [DarkRedKrueger]: Proposal*
2008-04-15 [Gone123456789]: Snap, didn't you say you were "outta here"? So.... why are you still commenting if you are so distraught at the so-called "drama." (I believe its just conversation, but text shows no emotion, we make up our own as we read.)
2008-04-16 [Ryuk Kannagi]: As for me I do happen to know about bots, don't forget i use to bot for games. I told you that on the phone before... it's the same concept. For the people that don't use the ignore button, it doesn't become our problem only their's, they should be smart and just use it.
2008-04-16 [Snap Dragon]: accio drop it and jamie stop correcting me
2008-04-16 [Snap Dragon]: yeah they should i just useually get tired of ppl letting it happen and whineing about it to everyone else and draging others in it
2008-04-16 [Ryuk Kannagi]: Then use your ignore button on them as well, simple and yet so effective.
2008-04-17 [Snap Dragon]: *shrugs shoulders* ya know i kinda do that already i go to Oblivion and their system of running things is pretty good but no one is interested in it that ok....when are we getting this chat up
2008-04-17 [DarkRedKrueger]: Probably never.
2008-04-17 [Darth Jacein]: hmm..next sunday..set a time, go by elftown time, so no one getls lost..and we can do it there..
2008-04-18 [Snap Dragon]: ok sounds good lets do this
2008-04-18 [Darth Jacein]: we need a time
2008-04-19 [Gone123456789]: Time: 2pm Elftown time. o.0 Work for everyone? Oder nein?
2008-04-19 [Ryuk Kannagi]: I got a computer and math class so i'm out for that time
2008-04-19 [Darth Jacein]: i got training...
2008-04-19 [Zel Holt]: I don't know elftown time? ^_^'
2008-04-19 [DarkRedKrueger]: I wont be home.
2008-04-20 [Darth Jacein]: its um in the top right corner..
2008-04-21 [Snap Dragon]: anytime is good for me
2008-04-21 [Gone123456789]: HMC- you sure about that one? Zel, its bc of you that we are even doing this so you pick a time and everyone available will come, if they aren't they can come later. If you don't know ET time, tell us what time you are on and we will go by that, I suppose. Or just check how many hours ahead/behind ET time is to your time by posting a comment in a wiki and read the time before your name, that's the ET time, I do believe. Like right now it's 6:18am ET time. That way everyone will know how to set their clocks for the big chat day.
2008-04-21 [Snap Dragon]: ^_^
2008-04-21 [Darth Jacein]: there, problem solved
2008-04-21 [Snap Dragon]: awsome
2008-04-21 [Darth Jacein]: woot
2008-04-24 [Zel Holt]: Uhh, is that a good thing that it's becuase of me? It's uhh 14:45 at the moment on here and it's 10:48 am at my house, uhh I'm not sure, that makes it 2:45 pm right? I'm not good at makeing decisions, I'm not a good leader. T_T
2008-04-24 [Ryuk Kannagi]: Your just an inciter then ehy.
2008-04-26 [Zel Holt]: Pardon?
2008-04-26 [Ryuk Kannagi]: You give the idea but don't lead it, basically.
2008-04-26 [Zel Holt]: Yeah, That's it. ^_^'
2008-04-26 [Snap Dragon]: lol its ok im the same way....sometim
2008-04-27 [Zel Holt]: Ok, at leats I know I'm not alone. ^_^'
2008-04-27 [Snap Dragon]: its always good to know ones not alone ^_^
2008-05-03 [Tynuka-Rhytishy]: Speaking, speaking, speaking.
2008-05-03 [Zel Holt]: ?
2008-05-08 [Tynuka-Rhytishy]: NO one spoke for a few days. c.c Had to say something.
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